Category: Let's talk
I have to say writing this topic is not easy. I can also say that I have discovered a lot about myself in the past weeks. I am writing for more than the subject line I am writing to show that people must pick for themselves what future they will hold. They must decide if they support the community, they are a part of and they must decide what moral values they will sacrifice if any. I am saying that I was here early in the days of this site and what I see disheartens me to the core. I have made fun of some of my best friends for what a few people who will say they’re my friend until I don’t agree with them? I see more cliques and see these cliques tell the community leaders and admens to ban people they don’t like I think this is the horrible evil that some users have for each other here. I think that people need to get back to basics to put it mildly they need to see what it is like on the opposite end of the spectrum but that’s not my job or anyone else’s either. I think that people deserve forgiveness. I forgive all of you who picked on me I forgive your apparent lack of respect for anyone including yourselves and I certainly hope you learn that fitting in is not everything and maybe you will think of my words here tonight and understand fully what I am saying. You shouldn’t have to compromise your values and morals to fit in to a clique I just hope that the people I have hurt will forgive me for sinking to that level myself.
wah wah wah! go eat a twinky!
and btw, perhaps maybe write a topic title?
it was supposed to say My thoughts, and forgiveness. and it didnt do it
aw how touching was that snoring i heard?
no, it's wasn't snoring, that rumbling sounded like a freight train. no wait. it might have just been jenny walking to the nearest cupboard to see if...wait, it's empty cuz she ate everything in it already
Why on earth would you waste your time writing something like this when you could've went to those you've hurt the most in a private message via the inbox? I mean thats what I do. When I do something wrong, I own up to it some way to the person afflicted. And 99% of the time I'm forgiven. Because I do it in private.
because most of them do not respond and I did it not just for them.
who else did u do it for the pope? no u were busy nvm...
Topics like this are done soully for the attention value. and what makes you think I want your forgiveness? what makes you think it matters at all to me what you think? I don't do anything to fit in, if I bitch and moan at a person it's because I feel like it, not because i want others to laugh at me, or to agree with me, I do what I want for me.
Kevin that's your view and i am not going to protest that however, some here do it strictly to fit in
I understand where your coming from.
thank you at least someone does
Jenni I applaud you for speaking your mind with more grace than I could ever manage,you are absolutely right there is so much emphasis on fitting in and playing the game, even here it's endemic.
i hear you, but people can be crual but that's life, as long as you know the truth that's all that madders.
I am glad some of you see my points.
You must've did something really bad to get this kind of negitivity. This is why I suggested you just go directly to those in private by sending them a email outside of the zone. I guess I'm lucky to have such good friends who know I don't do it to hurt but to do it to teach a lesson. I'm just fortunate that I have such good friends.
no there a fucking a clique and cliques were not the entent of this site.
People should try and put themselves in the shoes of the person there picking on.
I think that Jinny hits the nail on the head right here:
She says: "
no there a fucking a clique and cliques were not the entent of this site."
Well, WHAT IS THE END OF THIS SITE??
aS A RELATIVELY NEW COMER TO THIS SITE i WAS APAlLED AT THE LACK OF OFFICIAL "DOS AND DON'TS" OF THIS SITE. i DID FIND AN ENTRY TITLED "OFFICIAL RULES FOR THE SITE" AND IT QUICKLY DETERIATED TO PERSONAL ATTACKS AND GENERAL NONSENSE.
Could it partially be--and I say this with some reservations--that the administrations are partiall at fault: they've been responsive to our "needs" but they don't seem to have given any guidance into promoting the sites policies and helpful hints.
Maybe I merely rave, but I'm through for now Forgive me admins, and don't ban me <grin>, just give it some thoughts..
Bob
sO, (christ I just realized that I'm doing this in all capno inner meaning intended.
again jenny, little debby misses you, and so why don't you go jiggle your fat ass down to them.
It's a website. Get over it. People are gonna like you and some people are going to attack you and a few people will hate you. And a couple of people will forgive you. You can't be popular all the time on a site. So why cry about it when people are either going to tease and torment you like the majority here has. You'll get over it just give yourself some time away from this site, work on more important matters like oh say maybe real life friends, a website of your own, your blog (where this really should go as it appears no one cares of what you say here) and maybe go to a therapist to work on your self esteme and confidence before you come back on here. Sheesh grow up. I can definately see why the majority of the people here went against you or tormented you in their replies.
no your just a slut and clique supporter and deserve to burn in hell with the rest of them
awwwwww thanks Jen. I hope you enjoy hell too. I hear it can get very trecherious down there.
Well enough of us will be in hell to meet each other. So if the zone meeting thing doesn't work out at least some of us will get to meet each other.
Yes so true Blind Bandit. SO who's bold enough to make the plunge head first into hell? Or do we need to actually grab the creator of this very boring, topic and throw her in??????? Anyone with me?
one more thing, I only pick and kid with the ones I know on here. And I don't joke with them unless I know they can take it and give it. I am a smart ass and write smart ass comments at other's QN's, but don't go after the person. So what ever that makes me, I'll wear the title proudly with my head up.
Yup, another good and well said point from the Bandit. BB and I joke around, tease and torment one another almost every day. But you gotta understand, he's shown me how to loosen up and not to take things so strongly or personally. Because he is strange, and I'm sure he finds some of the things I say about him in PQNs strange as well. But we go back about 2 years now. And even though he and I have had some very rough firery spots we managed to fix things and get over them. We've both done some very stupid stuff towards one another that was hurtful at one point. But we know not to take it personally and this is why BB and I are such great friends. I'm sure he considers me part of the family as he has no one except for a few friends and his fiance to hang around, kid around and be himself. So Jenni, my advice to you watch what you say. The things you say will come back to hurt you. And no one will come to your aide. Ooooo better do this before I hit the post reply button. *HUGS to Blind Bandit!*
jenny does gond not say let bnot the sun set upon an arguement well im not sleeping yet and i know we don't get along but i understand some things but if this is your form of forgiveness not listening to me after numerous atempts... shat ever
hey Bob. We haven't been lax. Here's the deal. We're tryign to get the rules officially posted, but for right now, this site doesn't operate on any official set of rules. I'm hoping this changes, but this site seems like the senate. Things keep stalling for various reasons. The rules themselves aren't really there to enforce what you guys say. They are there so that everyone has a clearer understanding of how we operate. and yes, the site has gone down hill in some aspects. People seem to rip on each other more, though I don't know if that's the site getting worse, or the crowd changing. I have to agree with a lot of sentaments. We do not force our users to be here. If someone doesn't like it. Well. You don't have to come here. You can also turn off quick notes and play games. Though, I will say that some of the meaningless flaming should stop. Yankee, shark, and daniel are three who come to mind who cause a ton of it. Saddly, it's not my job to babysit. It is up to yall to police yourselves. Anyways, I'm done
Yup just wanted to show how insane Blind Bandit and I can get and then we both got serious. It shows that we can poke fun at one another, tease and torment but not flame each other. I just wish others can do the same by not taking things way too seriously. But some do and thats the reality of a online community. The only time I'd go after the person and put them straight is if they went after Blind Bandit. Because I care about him dearly as family. He came to my defense and didn't have to but he did in typical Bandit fashion.
Jenni, can i just say something. And keep this in mind!!! We, always, win, in, the, end!!! Its always about us in the end. Get that threw your thick head.
sadly daniel your in high school and have a lot of growing up to do son
Well you have already grown if you know what i mean. Just keep stuffing your fat face a just no that we always win in the end. You just can't face it. And i am sorry jenni you know i am always right. You never win. You loser. You are boring and very sensitive. Get lost.
i was here first dan
Damn this board turned into a fucking battlezone. LMFAO!!
Damn this board turned into a fucking battlezone. LMFAO!!
yeah and that was not my entent that is for damn sure
Jenni, all you are looking is for attention. People hate you and that's the fact. And i do not give a flying fuck that you were here first, no one likes you so we are just having fun. Yeah and we always still win in the end. You have nothing to back that up so just get your facts strate before you open your big mouth and know that were always right.
What has she done to warrant such abuse you should back up that accusation mate
hey he cant help that he beats his little brother and curses at him and i could get them both taken from there parents. he also can't help that his parents neglect him by letting him listen to trash radio that no child should hear since he started listening to opie and anthony he has become a huge fuck up in all sinces of the word. maybe he should get beyond three years old I just took my geography final and am not going to dwell over this bull during the studying of my other two which are tomorrow
“people hate you and that’s the fact”, and, “I could get them both taken from their parents”. Just what playground is it you’re playing in, and do your parents know you’re out? There are no rights and wrongs here, you are all as bad as each other. I sincerely hope that you don’t pass yourselves off as mature adults in the real world, because quite frankly, if I hadn’t been led to believe otherwise, I could be mistaken for thinking that this is a site for people with learning difficulties. If this was a reputable website, then this kind of behaviour simply would not be tolerated – the entire post would have been deleted by now. I can only assume that none of you hope to ever have real lives out in the real world, because with the attitudes that some of you display you won’t get very far. As hard as this may be for some of you to comprehend, you don’t get very far out there by telling people to fuck off. If you ever wish to be respected by people out there, then I would suggest you all grow up.
dam harpsichord, you tell them, bf smile
jenny don't let these people bring u down. they only want a rise out of you.
Ok, now I'm lost completely. Goblin for once I agree with what you had to say. And Jen, Goblin was trying to help you out and for some odd reason you chose to defend the person who's bashing you? Isn't that a little immature to be bashing someone then defending them? Harpsicord, while I agree with everything you said, I know that deep down in most of these instigater's brains they aint gonna take your advice for anything. Look at what I did in the first posting. I simply suggested to Jen here to just let it go, do something else, go on other websites, try and focus on whats more important. And she never saw what I was trying to get across. In fact she snapped at me and a friend of mine happened to back me. My pal and I then showed these idiots on how they look like and act like. And then I got serious by showing them that if you want friends, if you want respect and to be treated decently no matter how much hell you brought on the person that things can indeed change. I mean look at what Bill and I endured on and off for two years. Thats hell enough and especially humiliating him on this website I'm surprised he still talked to me, even forgave me...... What I'm trying to say is that no mater what he did to me I still considered him a friend. And no matter what I did to him, he considered me a friend. And still no one got it. So in the end, all I gotta say for you advice givers on this topic....... Save it, no one's gonna listen. Just sit back and watch the show. Eventually things will cool down (I hope). But you are indeed right Harpsicord, you aren't going to get far in the real world if you prefer to act this way. Especially when the person in question who's been switching sides who started this topic is majoring in Pyschology. NO ONE will hire a person with a Psych degree with that kind of behavior because of the risk factor. So folks can we kinda leave it be? Maybe take this outside on MSN Messenger or something? Only these people can fix their own mistakes and their own problems with each other.
This is why I just sit back and watch. It's kinda humerious to see how things go. But sadly things gotta end some how. If they bother you that much Jen, just hit ignore and don't turn back. You'll be glad you did.
wow...i actually think that reading all that was a huge waste of my time, but since i did read it i'm gonna put in my bit for what it's worth.
Jenny i agree with your philosophy but i really think you're wasting your time with these people. As the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink".
As much as you want these people to listen, they won't...there...wasn't that an educational bit of information from the zone convict?
If you believe there's such a thing as a mature adult, you might as well believe in unicorns and elves.
Oh, one more thing. Never trust or believe anyone who says they're always right. I ahve yet to meet anyone who is that consistent.
i was not defending dan i was saying all of that about him dear. he and i used to be friends
Well, even if you all don't like her: She has a point!!! Siometimes I really wonder why you all our doing this!!! See, how would it feel for you if you like both sides? Like, I really like the people who are rude to others sometimes. Now what am I going to do if they are r ude to my friends? What can I do so I won't get unpopular on one of these sides? I mean i know, drama is everywhere, but there are so many people who just left the community (which is sad because usually it is awesome here) because they are hurt by others!!! And I know what I am talking about. I have experienced this myself. And don't be so rude if someone expresses their opinion here, even if you don't like them.
community loss pisses me off i almost want to write my own with a rule of no bashing see when i think of freedom of speech i do not think its cool to disrespect someone and treat them like crap.
No-bashing rules are no guarantee that people will follow them, sad to say. People have this screwed-up definition of freedom of speech in my opinion. A lot of people seem to think that they have the right to say anything they want to anyone they want at any time and because it's a mere statement of opinion, nobody is supposed to challenge it or criticize it. Anybody who does criticize it gets accused of censorship or taking the speaker's fredom away. Listen, I have as much power to take people's freedom away as I have to wish them into the cornfield if they're bad. Translation, I don't have that kind of power. The First Amendment is more about how the government can't arrest you if you criticize it publicly, but as far as the common people are concerned, we still have to abide by such apparently silly and useless ideas as good manners and good sportsmanship and being able to agree to disagree. Sadly, some people are just assholes and you can't do a damn thing about it, plus on the net, people think they aren't hurting anybody by just typing words and it's all a game to them.
well Labyrinth I agree with that. THat's no guarantee. But I still understand Jenny's anger very well. And if you look how many people doN't come on anymore just because of that ...
yep a lot of people i brought here will never come back
I can agree with all that. So, now that we acknowlege that people are jerks and there is drama and it hurts real people, what can all of us realistically do to solve the situation? It's one thing to hope and dream that we all can just be nice to one another, but it's another to actually stop dreaming and actually do something about it. I just wonder how many people would be willing to change their behavior so there's less drama?
Well, hardly any people who are actually causing drama really made serious posts on here. So, to be honest, I doubt that those who are rude to others will really do something. Thereh ave been a lot of board topics complaining about the drama. Nothing has been done so far and I doubt that there will come a day without drama-makers. All that we can do is just try and stay out of it, I'm afraid.
Damn this board topic went from Jenni talking about her thoughts and theapology to bashing her then now to talking about shit starters. Isn't it funny how fast a board topic can change?
I mean correct me if I'm wrong but if you don't like all the drama then ignore all the shit starters that are causing it. Isn't that what the ignore feature is for?
yeah but we are lementing oiver the loss of some of our friends ya know.
That's right. Chris, some just can not ignore the drama maybe. And you should respect them as well.
labrinth, I like the saying that said somthing about mature adults compared with somthing like unicorns and elves.
interesting
oh, guys, you should see the rant board, so many drama queens and kings complaining.
well, i enjoy reading everything because atleast im not bored.
heheheheh
jee, wat a change.
Lol, Prisci. I still find it kind of sad though.
I read this. Dan O&AFan, and Yankee, What you both have said here is wrong on so many levels. Unlike someone who deserves it, like birdy, or even O&AFan, Jenny here has done nothing wrong that i can see to deserve such bullshit directed at her. "It is very appropriate to just continue bashing someone on a topic that forgives them for doing it." Yeah fuckin' right! You guys seriously need a god damn atitude ajustment. garret Martin, I'm glad to see that I was right. Your appology whent absolutely nowhere. Shame that, because I really thought that I might be able to get along with you. But as for O&AFan? Fuck, yourself. You hear me? Fuck yourself with a foot-long pencil. I don't know Jenny as well as i know some other people, but I can say that for the way you treat her and a the way you treat a few close friends...I see you, you don't like it one bit. I may have to answer some serious questions from others, but too bad, it'd be worth it.
To quote a song "I don't want to be anything other than who I am".
Cliques suck but they exist now and always have. On this topic you have asked for forgiveness and stated your dislike of cliques then turn around and call some one a slut questioning their moral values. Are you then not creating a sort of "clique" of your own where such people are not valued or welcome? Just playing devils advocate. My advice is put all those that you dislike or that hurt you on ignore. When all that is done if there is still people left that are not on that list then have a nice chat with them. I have seen many things on here and one of them is people that claim to be friends only to stab each other in the back. I think the word "friend" is a word used loosely. I think it best you don't claim some one as a "friend" until they have proven them self to be one. Also there is a lot of he said she said crap. A "friend" does not believe hearsay no matter who it comes from. If you don't hear it from the person said to of said it or you have no proof of it, then it was never said.
there are "friends" and there are "acquaintances" keep them straight. you will never lose a true friend over small shit. You can go with out talking to a friend for months and start back up as no time had passed and you can share the most personal stuff about yourself with no worry of betrayal. An acquaintance you bullshit with, small talk, hey what's up and that is the extent of it. Friends take time to make acquaintances are made daily. If you don't like the drama pool don't swim in it and if you can't swim for gods sakes stay out of the deep end.
Um I do respect people Inex but only to those who respect me for who I am. Like I stated in my profile if you respect me then I'll respect you simple as that, just to be clear.
That's fine. But wouldn't it be easier for you and the ones you disrespect when you just don't talk to them?
Jenny, just turn pqn's off if you don't like it.
I do, However agree with harpsacord.
Just grow up, and learn how to deal with people in the real world.
also, calling someone a slut while asking others for forgiveness is not the best course of action.
No I'm sorry to say but some people deserve what they get for acting like total idiots. If someone strikes at me first then have that right to fight back it's only fair. I really honestly don't care if look immature to others for doing so.
I'm just saying ... at least I believe in that ... what goes around comes around. And I don't wish for you that someday you'll get this back.